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Kynikos Associates' hedge fund founder Jim Chanos sat down with Jim O'Neill, former Chairman of Goldman Sachs Asset Management at the Bloomberg Markets 50 Summit to chat about China, real estate, and markets.  Here are some of the highlights:

Chanos & O'Neill on China

O'Neill says that most of the reason why China's slowed is because they've deliberately slowed.

Chanos' caution in regards to China stems from credit.  He prefers to bet against China by playing miners, steel companies, construction companies, the building blocks that have boosted the expansion.

O'Neill asked Chanos if he would be against European luxury goods companies that have benefited from a wealthier Chinese consumer and Chanos said he doesn't need to play "third derivative" plays as he's more covered by betting against "first derivatives" such as the miners.

Chanos is bearish on iron ore because he says demand can rise or fall, but there's a ton of supply coming to the market late this year and next year.  Greenlight Capital's David Einhorn has also bet against iron ore.

O'Neill argues that the "old China" is dead and that's what Chanos is betting against.  He thinks it's a great stockpicker's market there as you can bet against old China and bet on new China.

Chanos also recommended a book about China: Red Capitalism.

For other coverage of the Bloomberg Markets 50 Summit, we also posted up video from the hedge fund panel featuring Glenn Dubin, Marc Lasry & Bruce Richards.


Embedded below is the video of Chanos' interview from the Bloomberg Markets 50 Summit:



For more coverage of the various conferences lately, head to:

- Notes from the Value Investing Congress (Ubben, Roepers, McGuire & more)

- Notes from the Alpha Hedge West Conference (Bass, Burbank, Richards & more)